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Podcast: Does the IoT mean the end of privacy?

January 26, 2023 by Stacey Higginbotham 2 Comments

This week’s show kicks off with a discussion about Carnegie Mellon’s research into detecting people’s movements through walls using Wi-Fi. As part of the discussion we also talk about the use of stick figures to protect privacy and how little trust consumers have in companies when it comes to the use of their data. That lack of trust might explain why so few consumers connect their smart appliances, or perhaps it’s simply because appliance makers don’t offer consumers a good reason. We then share the results of our audience survey about how y’all create routines. Most of y’all (86%) use a hub rather than the device application. Reliability and funding for Memfault, a startup helping companies build more reliable connected devices, is the next topic of conversation, which also features a funny smart lock failure from a fellow smart home reporter. In smaller news, we talk about a security camera which will use the new Wi-Fi HaLOW standard, Google asking for opinions on Google Home, and new security settings to view Nest camera feeds. We also discuss Apple’s revamp of its botched HomeKit architecture update, and Kevin’s experience using the Apple AirPods Pro 2nd gen earbuds as a hearable device. Finally, we answer a listener question about how to set up a light or smart speaker notification to attract attention when an important person calls.

We asked, and 79 of y’all answered what hub system you use for creating smart home routines. Apparently, a lot of y’all use Hubitat.

Our guest this week is Matt Rogers, the co-founder and CEO of Mill, a startup using a connected kitchen bin to fight food waste. We talk about the problem of food waste and who will pay $33 a month for the bin and concurrent service. Rogers also explains the math behind the service, and talks about why he chose to use a subscription model to fund the business. He also tells me why this isn’t a composting device, since it’s designed to keep food in the food system, and explains why that is so important. Finally, he shares how challenging it was to build a hardware startup during the pandemic. It’s a fun chat.

 

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Filed Under: Featured, Podcast Tagged With: Amazon, Apple, Apple Memfault, carnegie mellon, google, Hubitat, LG, Matt Rogers, Mill, nest, TagsAkenza, Whirlpool, Yale

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  1. lawrence k says

    January 26, 2023 at 12:10 pm

    I think online privacy is a Myth. If you walk down the street, you don’t expect there be anything private about you walking or being seen. If you buy IP based devices and bring them into your home, why would you expect anything less. If someone sits on the corner watching the lights of your house come on or off or as you walk past to the bus stop is no different than Fly-by-night smart light maker recording how often you put on the red light.

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  2. ReaderCat says

    January 27, 2023 at 1:40 pm

    I missed the Survey: I use Apple’s Home app but my husband uses Alexa and all the different apps. I would prefer that Homekit have control and force everything else to operate through my local home hub. I’m disappointed that Matter will just expose more of my devices to Amazon and all the other companies.

    Oh, and the more experience and knowledge I gain about the smart home the less I trust it. We are actively avoiding putting anything important on the cloud after some terrible experiences losing access to our Sonos speakers, DropCams, and Nest smoke detectors due to corporate shenanigans. It’s actually pretty difficult to avoid “smart” appliances, even solar panels and heat pumps!

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